Indeed, given that the lines all share a 1:24 scale, they actually scale well with each other. Some of the citybot toys have visible windows, which are too large for a city, suggesting instead a medium-sized building. While this introduces a nice range of options for the discerning collector, it can also lead to some problems. The follow-up to that line, Transformers GT, packed each 1:32-scale toy with a 3 3/4-inch Microman "GT Sister" figure, making the girls positively giant when compared to the cars. I recall reading years ago that Bayverse Optimus stood at somewhere between 28' - 32' tall, and that Bayverse Megatron stood supposedly at 35' feet tall (according to magazine articles and TFWiki). ULTIMATE AUTOBOT CHART: (minus Dinobots) CONSTRUCTICONS: (Mixmaster render belongs to KingStarscream9) DECEPTICONS: . Even if a size was decided on, it often didn't remain consistent. Did Devastator shrink? So, at least in that micro-continuity, they were human-sized or Powermaster Optimus Prime is the size of Devastator. The reintroduction of the Prime Wars Trilogy Legends Class (under the name "Core Class") is another barrel of monkeys, with the majority of them being smaller takes of "G1" characters based on larger toys, which only scale amongst their own. Scale charts - Transformers Wiki The Marvel Generation 1 comic sidestepped this issue by depicting Trypticon, Fortress Maximus, and Scorponok as merely "large-standard" characters. Leader Class, at US$40. Devastator in the Season One scale guide was approximately 2.5 times the height of Optimus Prime, but by Season Two he was somewhat less than twice Prime's height. Instead, they're about the same size. Super mode Powermaster Optimus Prime was originally about Fortress Maximus-sized, until he too shrunk to the size of his inner robotwhich was never seen again. The Autobots also contend with the human terrorist organization,MECH, headed by former military operative Leland Bishop, akaSilas, who targets the Cybertronians for their technology, capturingBreakdown,Bumblebee, and Starscream for parts, and building adoppelgngercontrolled by Silas. Soundwave- Microcassette desk. Aaaand then a Deluxe-sized Groove and a new Blast Off figure with a space shuttle alternate mode are added to the line in order to revert their teams to their "classic" configurations. The cartoon, for example, shows Prime, Megatron and Soundwave as about the same height, Seekers and Autobot cars as slightly shorter (though not as much as the toys are), and Minibots as smaller yet. The disparity becomes even more obvious with Mini Vehicles such as Warpath (a tank) and Seaspray (a hovercraft), who should be many times their actual size. Sizes Source: https://www.deviantart.com/hexalys/art/Transformers-Prime-Height-Chart-527803474 The Alternators toyline, where every toy is a 1:24-scale representation of a real car, and thus in perfect scale with each other, was the first to buck the trend. Seekers, most notably Blitzwing (who later scans an Earth-based fighter jet) are mostly the same size as bots like Optimus, who maintains his truck mode. "Giant" characters such as Omega Supreme are, even aside from any size changing for transport purposes, clearly not in the same scale in toy form as they are depicted on screen. The Deluxe Cheetor, on the other hand, was too small to match scales with most of the other toys (again, using the cartoon as a yardstick). Scale when it comes to planets is so fraught it's painful. Blaster becomes a human-scale radio; Megatron shrinks into a handgun scaled for either Transformer or human hands, depending on the situation. Thus, in the context of Transformers, "city" is perhaps better read as "building" or "fortress". IDW's original continuity frequently took liberties with scale as well: notably, Cosmos is consistently drawn positively huge in robot mode when standing side by side with his fellow Autobots while appearing as a regular member of the (background) cast in More than Meets the Eye, but as soon as he transfers over into the sister title Robots in Disguise, his size is considerably scaled down a bit (although he's still a few heads taller than the average Autobot). If he's the size of a real truck, Prime in robot mode should be 810 m (25'30') tall, at best. The new scale for the driver figures continued with Dark of the Moon, which introduced Scout-sized robot figures that had one-man vehicle modes in a slightly larger scale, resulting in undersized drivers riding oversized motorcycles. two cars or two planes), but are not quite in scale with each other. Broadside transforms from an Earth fighter jet of indeterminate model (let's pretend for the sake of argument that he's supposed to be an F-14 and say he's 18 meters (61 feet) long) into an entire aircraft carrier, approximately 333 meters (1,092 feet) long. For example, the first wave of Classics Deluxes featured Autobots Bumblebee and Rodimus, two cars, as well as Decepticons Starscream, a modified F-15 Eagle fighter jet, and Astrotrain, a Triple Changer who turns into a bullet train locomotive and a modified NASA Space Shuttle orbiter, all roughly the same size in robot mode but obviously not the same scale in their alternate modes. In recent years, the "collector-aimed" mass-retail lines have made attempts to stick to an internally consistent scale (while still adhering to price points), largely based on the characters' robot mode depictions in media. There are times however outside and inside of lore when official heights and sizes of characters are given. Newcomer Alpha Bravo is also undersized if his windows are anything to go by. Archived post. Other toys with comparable alternate modes that are slightly out of scale with each other are Generation 1 Sunstreaker and Sideswipe (mentioned above), who have the same basic alternate mode (with a few differences), and Universe Legends Class Autobot Jazz and Rodimus. Other instances of multiple-size characters are more clear cut; the Spychanger incarnations of various 2001 Robots in Disguise characters, for instance, are simply scaled-down representations of the same characters in the same bodies, not meant to interact with the much larger "main" toys, as are the later "Legends of Cybertron" toys in Cybertron. Scorponok has a "human-sized" being forming his head. Of course, with much of the line now using Earth-based vehicle modes, those scale issues return. A much larger Deluxe version of Scorponok is also meant to interact with the same Blackout toy, despite the ridiculous scale disparity (and the fact that this means Blackout can have two Scorponoks of radically different size clipped to him simultaneously). Notably, the GAU-8/A Avenger gatling cannon mounted to the front end of the A-10 Thunderbolt II (Powerglide's alternate mode) alone is about the same size as a Volkswagen Beetle (Bumblebee).[1]. In the American and Japanese cartoons, all four were shown as massive robots capable of housing many normal-sized Transformers. Some scale problems are for the sake of characterization. The depiction of Unicron's scale in Armada was (debatably) a slight improvement, in that physical interaction with normal beings was not attempted. In recent years, Hasbro has actually started using the term "scale" in the context of their Transformers toys more frequently. There is also a great deal of praise given to the serious, more mature storytelling ofPrimethat had not been attempted in Transformers media sinceBeast Machines. Though they were sometimes ignored, they still give insight into the official scale of characters in Generation 1. Anyone looking within the toyline for notions of a "correct" scale between the characters would be stymied by the multiple size classes and the lack of real-world scale references. NEW COLOR G1 Season 1-3 scale chart! - TFW2005 The Animated franchise has its share of scale problems when comparing its toyline to the cartoon (not helped by multiple releases of some characters in different sizessee above), with several characters seeming roughly one size class too small, such as the Dinobots being a mix of one Voyager size and two Deluxes, Sentinel Prime looking rather diminutive as a Deluxe, and, most egregiously, Lugnut as a very squat Voyager who's shorter than even some Deluxes (as with Voyager-class Bulkhead, more of his mass went into his width, plus his weapon takes away some from his robot mode). Within the fandom, the show quickly won fans over, an impressive feat for the chronological successor to the widely lovedTransformers Animated. Transformers: Primehas received widespread acclaim, even from outside of the Transformers fandom. However, even here, there are problems. This page was last modified on 8 April 2023, at 23:14. Likewise, Metroplex's internal workings are portrayed as much smaller than they'd realistically have to be.