racehead, take a look at a previous discussion on this subject, under the topic "Chemical to softer rubber? Picture this, your next go-kart race is coming up in a week and youre thinking about every edge that you can get, in order to win the race. CarlsonMotorsports Site Supporter. Thread starter turtle5353; Start date Jun 17, 2015; T. turtle5353 Member. During the process, youll need to access all four tires easily and ensure that none of the tires have contact with the ground. You should also consider the condition of your tires. Scuffing your kart tires means that you are taking a rough material and are scraping it against your tires to create small scuff marks on them. Submerse the rag or roller lightly in the tire softener and apply the mixture to the whole surface area of the tire. It mixes well with other preps and like Acrysol gives and Be sure to create mixture in a well-ventilated area. You've gotten some info about some stuff your can use for prep other then buying already made prep. Should soften them up a bit. I stored them in my garage on their side and took the air out of them. hdm@hdmworld.com. Copyright 2023 Leaf Group Ltd. / Leaf Group Media. Some guys claim they get better results out of a new tire if they grind that factory shine off the tread before they use it. You can also wrap the tires in plastic for a deeper penetration. Sharp edges are what give you bite., Mateer: Factory edges seem to hold up better than grooving iron-edges. How to Soften Tires | It Still Runs For a medium bite track, you should apply 3 ounces on the outer tire and 2 ounces on the inner tire. The guy I bought my son's kart from gave us tire prep that he used. Our most popular prep is a staple in the Insanity tire program. Mark. Login. racehead (Automotive) (OP) 14 Jan 09 18:04. thanks guys ill have alook around see if i can get hold of . Eventually they wear or tear away, and then youve got rounded edges, which is just as bad, because those rounded edges really reduce bite. thanks guys ill have alook around see if i can get hold of some of this nmp. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Pour a small quantity of the mixture into the tray. It really helps to deepen that factory groove around the edge, especially when theres a cushion. It's a very versatile prep that can be cut and mixed with others as needed to seek a desired effect per track conditions. With the inside prep in place you should roll the tires for a minimum of 12 hours for the prep to completely go into the tire. The most common scuffing tool is a handheld belt sander. Theyll tell you what they need. 32 years of service to the karting industry ~ 1Cor 9:24. 26 years of service to the karting industry. Repeat for each tire you wish to soften. Combine that sealed surface with the mechanical polishing of the tread simply by spinning of the tire, and you lose bite. Fewer and shallower sipes, or even no sipes at all, are preferred for dry-slick conditions. If you ever have questions about any of our products, please give us a call! to dry between coats. Try spraying them down with a decent amount of wd40 the. // -->. May 14, 2014 #3 ; Xylene & Toluene: Think soft dry . Discover how this hybrid manufacturing process enables on-demand mold fabrication to quickly produce small batches of thermoplastic parts. externally in coats with a brush or roller. Any help would be great thanks. Thor Oil and Tire My goal with this site is to share valuable go-kart racing information through guides, articles, reviews, track details and more. On the rears, I sipe straight across the blocks. If they have to drive a quarter mile to get to the pits, or drive through mud to get there, their readings are going to be off. I agree with the other comments that it comes with risk, both health and cost wise, and without support. Or maybe they needed to be cut up more so they stayed open. Its a deal where you have to experiment, see what happens, and learn how to read your tires., Hampshire: Some guys resist grinding tires because they think theyre reducing the tires life expectancy. Well they are harder then they were last season. let dry the follow up with GP or WG as normal. we use spf 60 or higher now..no add blue and purple bottlesapply to tires and allow to sit on them for awhilewipe off any excess before you runnever ever on carpet! For a while youre running on those little edges that roll over under pressure, and its like running on marbles. OIL OF WINTERGREEN IS ACTUALLY METHYLSALILCYLIC ACID KEY WORD ACID IT IS COMMONLY USE FOR WORT REMOVAL AND SKIN CARE YOU WILL FIND IT IN A LOT OF ACNE MEDS. Hyper Coil brand coil over springs are now The tires in question have decent rubber remaining - but have gone through a couple heat cycles and have sat in garage for 2+ years. Item Name: Tire Treatment #12 Wintergreen - Quart As you can see, the lower the bite of the race track, the thicker the application needs to be, in order to give you the extra traction you need. They will usually indicate how much to formula to apply and how the formula should be applied. Therefore, you should keep your go-kart on the stand and store it indoors in a dry environment. It was a home made brew of 1/3 acetone, 1/3 mineral spirits, and 1/3 ATF. Using this technique will soften the rubber to get the desired traction or grip. Speedy is great for the start Siping seems to help dissipate the heat from the center of the tire under those conditions. If that tire is smoking, its too hot. Its impossible for tire companies or race teams to run controlled tests and definitively say that grinding, siping, or grooving tires in a specific pattern or to a specific depth gives specific amounts of additional traction, heating, cooling, or tread life. We loaned a set of old tires out tonight that I worked with a paint striper in a spray can that contained 60-75% NMP.Cost was under 10 bucks.They worked pretty well. We commonly use 10 X 6 rims for the right side tires, 8.5 x 6 for the left rear tire, and a 6.5 x 6 for the left front tire. It is best to do this two to three days before a race. In the Lyon and Grenoble metropolitan areas, and the Haute-Savoie department, INRAE units contribute to research activities at the Lyon-Saint-Etienne, Grenoble-Alpes, and Savoie Mont Blanc . Already a member? You can pick whatever is most comfortable for you. Before I continue, please make sure that tire prepping is allowed in the races that you participate in. Mix together a solution composed of 1/3 acetone, 1/3 mineral spirits and 1/3 transmission fluid. The goal is to get the tread temperature uniform across the width of each tread. Sheet Metal now available. Now that you have chosen the prep you feel is best suited for your track conditions lets discuss the amounts to use. This prep seems to work good on As a rgion, it encompassed the southeastern dpartements of Loire, Rhne, Ain, Haute-Savoie, Savoie, Isre, Drme, and Ardche. barluc99 Member. Well he has started and I just fund his hobby. Home Made Tire Softener? | Hobbyist Forums For a high bite track you may either want to opt for a thin coat or even skip tire prepping completely, depending on the bite of the respective race track. You can either use a spray, a brush or a roller. How to Make Homemade Tire Softener - SportsRec How to soften slicks???? - Don Terrill's Speed-Talk Works good. Learning how to prep go-kart racing tires for your next race includes scuffing your tires and applying tire prep formula several days before the race. Tire Preps for Racing Go Karts | Goat Pee Prep This means for a low bite track, its common to apply a little more than average. There are several inside preps on the market to choose from. *Eng-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. The majority of the preps out today are all the same, made by the same company just labeled different. Be careful when putting it on you can make the tire so soft its almost melting. Adjust the amount depending upon the number and size of the tires you are treating. These resins work to the surface and you get that shiny, glazed look and a slicker surface if the tire cools off during a caution or between races. Youre able to calculate this by understanding what type of track youre dealing with and the current state of your tires. 343 Engineer jobs in Grenoble, Auvergne-Rhne-Alpes, France (5 new) on a hard track, Acrysol is the answer. You dont need to move your tires, as they will automatically spin when the belt sander is running. Got a question for you guys. Youve got to be careful using real aggressive stones so you dont tear up the edges of any sipes youve put in the tread, because that can lead to chunking., Harris: Lets say youre running an American Racer G60 on a really dry-slick track. Thats why you see dimples or holes molded into the tread blocks of sprint car tiresnot to add traction, but to help keep those blocks cooler., Arment: [In WISSOTA,] we can groove the outside edges of the tires on the modifieds. This will give you the right amount of traction on the race track. Rivets and Keep in mind it takes most inside prep 2-3 days to completely pull through the tire. For an effective tire prep application process you can follow the step-by-step guide below. wd40 will drop the duro. Dan. However, there is also another method of doing this. Always consult the manufacturer before mixing any tire preps or The first thing you will notice is that the outer tire requires more tire prep formula than the inner tire. Knowing how and when to sipe, grind, and/or groove tires plays a significant role in the success of professional late model drivers, and they generally prefer to keep that information to themselves. The 6 steps to kart tire prep are: Scrub your new set of tires. The bite of a track basically means how much traction your wheels get. Allow the tire to dry fully. Take some rags soaked in kerosene and cover the tyres with it. Speedy 500 can applied externally in coats with a brush or How to Make RC Tires Sticky May 2023 - RaceNRCs As previously explained, the lower the bite of a track, the more tire prep formula you should apply. Today's top 343 Engineer jobs in Grenoble, Auvergne-Rhne-Alpes, France. Leaving dirt in the treads seems to soak out some of the chemicals that keep the tires flexible. d-limone is an orange based cleanerQuest is the name brand here in the States that I use.It may give you the grip you are looking for.It won't soften much at allAtleast on a kart tire.Not sure with the tires you use.