This was in the home on Broadview Rd. lets remember st joan of arc.please read and read about her she was absolutly right and the good dominican priest and the the english bishop/s treated her shamefully while captive. The devil has the ability to deceivewith cleverly-disguised religious apparitions, so the Catholic Church carefully evaluates such sites for discrepancies that conflict withScripture and Tradition. Flat contradiction of magisterial teaching is a clear indicator of inauthenticity, for the Holy Spirit does not lead the individual to reject the teaching of the very leaders he himself has established to protect the truth (Acts 20:28). He has continued this pattern in Boston. @LizEst:disqus, if you would like, please feel free to E-mail me privately. Did the early Chistians refuse to believe in Jesus because the local religious authorities objected? Re: your reference to The Imitation of Christ. Visions are not like sacraments, which produce their effect by their own power (that is, the power of Christ working through them) in those who do not place an obstacle. HLM attackes the Church??? My argument has been the most consistent of anyone in this discussion. God can use all things for good. I do not know what I said Harry. St. Ignatius is referring to the Magisterium, which is the definitive authority of the Catholic Church. God the Father is spirit and God the Holy Spirit is spirit. There are four chambers in the human heart. Trust in Him with a contrite, faithful and open heart. No, only the Pope has the right to declare something infallibly worthy or not worthy of belief. Canonical Church language is very specific, and when a condemnation is issued it is an official canonical document with no ambiguity of language. 3221, if you do not see this, there is no purpose in further communicating with me on this matter. Jesus told us that the gates of hell would not prevail against his Church and he promised to send the Paraclete to keep the Church free from error. Donovan pointed out that when the Church warns against an apparition and a person believes more in the apparition and rejects Church authority, the devil succeeded in his goal. Loyalty to the Church has never meant disregarding Truth. No less. Ha! Even before the bishops pronouncement, there were red flags for me. Christ has done that for us. This is an advisement. But there is a dark side to acting on messages that Church authority warns against. We pray at HOLY LOVE. The only apparition that I know of that was condemned is Veronica Leuken in Bayside. Remember, Holy Love is an ecumenical place, not Catholic. Then the issue was handed over to the Vatican itself. And from our Lord himself on Nov. 13, 2009: My brothers and sisters, tonight confusion may have entered your hearts concerning certain statements from the diocese. In the Summa, Aquinas explains that If the Faith is endangered a subject ought to rebuke his prelateeven publicly. Again, Catholic obedience must always be to the Faith. It was a no show for the Blessed Mother. Too often, if an alleged apparition is condemned people feel betrayed and give up on God and the Church. Catholic mystical theology is lacking most deplorably in so-called catechesis today. And no, I am not mocking this, that stuff about Jesus telling people to redeem themselves in his eyes is actually in one of the messages of MDM. Bishops have upheld heresy. Like any mother, I long to tend to the needs of My children. Very sacred, many miracles have happened to my family and miraculous blessings that I have asked for when I have gone there to Pray to the Blessed Mother statue at the Lake of Tears. Holy Love messages do not even have the facts about human anatomy correct. Otherwise well meaning people are disenchanted by a perception of a lack of people fulfilling their office(s). Amen." Disobedience to Church authority is one of the premier hallmarks of a false vision or apparition (there are others such as self-promotion, pride and profitting). For once in 40 years the faithful have the opportunity to learn what their bishops should have been teaching them all along. Thanks, PrairieHawk, for your comments. Evidently you are one of the many who does not know what the Catholic Church teaches. Go and find out the truth for yourselves. Any Catholic who gives their primary attention to alleged private revelation at the expense of Sacred Scripture, the teaching of the Church (especially the Catechism), sacramental practice, prayer and fidelity to Church authority is off course., He warned, The running after spiritual phenomena, such as alleged revelations, is condemned by St. John of the Cross as spiritual avarice. The question now is, will those that were enthralled with this Shrine, accept Church authority or continue to follow a ministry that has officially been condemned? There is nothing in the 1983 Code of Canon Law that specifies such a process in these affairs (though the Code affects them). Primacy of conscience trumps blindly following disobedient bishops. In high school, my father and I would go back and forth about the validity of HLM and every discussion was a circle. As to the annulment, it is none of our business whether or not she got a declaration of nullity, a declaration of invalidity or whatever. For Bishop Lennon to state in his canonical decree regarding Holy Love Ministries,.having reviewed the theological content of the alleged apparitions to Maureen Sweeney-Kyle, and having consulted an expert in this matter, I .declare the alleged apparitions and locations(I think he means locutions)are not supernatural in origin. one has to say that he disavows anything supernatural in origin in the teachings of the Catholic Faith, for the doctrine of Holy Love Ministries is the full Catholic teaching in all its pristine splendor. The clarity and the authenticity of the mystical theology taught there is the Catholic Faith. (cf CCC 1464, 1468, 736, 1832, Galatians 5:22-23 Vulgate). He cannot act in us unless we give Him our free will choice to do so. (Oh, and by the way, Holy Love Ministries has one of those miraculous springs. She has acted within canon law. When God told Adam and Eve not to eat the apple, dont eat the apple, even if just an apple. Holy Love Ministries claims that Our Lady gave this message to Maureen Sweeney Kyle on July 2, 2001: "I see you are using the new Rosary of the Unborn. Thomas T. emailed me last summer and we had a back and forth debate on the authenticity of the apparitions. 3221 came right back to me saying (words to the effect) that it did happen even if I couldnt verify it!!!!!!!!!!! Dis you read yet my comments a little bit above from this entry regarding your examples of heresy at HLM? May God bless you and your family this Christmas season. Just so you dont go on misinformed the United Hearts would actually have 8 chambers. Makes it look like it is genuine itself. I once read that people bring their own holiness to these sites. In fact, sometimes Ive thought about writing my own book about how disastrous my visit to Conyers became to my own personal faith journal. My second article (originally published 11/20/2009): Proclamation on Holy Love Ministries Will Test Hearts and Obedience. You also accused me of being angry and bitter, but it is you yourself who referred to me as an idiot in an earlier post. Barrier tags: condemnation , condemning , judgmental , prejudging 20 likes Like The devil can quote Scripture and encourage people to pray as it suits his larger purpose. The messages against what the Church believes and teaches started from the very beginning of these false messages (Ive listed just a few elsewhere in this blog, together with the dates of the false messages). Thats what were all talking about here. My argument did not win him over. Dont let it ruin your family too. Check the dictionary) people not to go to HLM. I think he/she thought you were me in a previous comment on this Catholic Lane site! Cover me with the Precious Blood of Your Divine Son. Three bishops have approved of it. One would wonder which truth of the Catholic Faith bothers him.. Would you please cite the reference for your information on Mother Teresa? Sister Adele cautioned the Bishop that he would be responsible for the souls lost due to the lack of proper religious instruction. But she obeyed the Bishops command. Yet, as an ecumenical ministry it found time and space in many of its printed materials to rail against the Church. The Mother of God would have her true sons and daughters know the difference too. That is why we have the Church, so that we dont get led astray by what looks good on the surface. It seems to me that she needed a Spiritual director. I too have had wonderful experiences at Holy Love that have brought me so much closer to God, my church and my faith. Another person said that her fallen-away Catholic friend that once ridiculed the site became a believer. Such is the case with Holy Love. If Jesus were giving messages on all truth to individuals, the result would not be thousands of denominations going in different directions. Condemnation is an officially canonical act and the Church has very specific guidelines for enacting it. Ive just read through 12 or so replies by 3221 commenter here and am astounded and saddened. Oh, there are always some of those, but for the most part, people are motivated by their love of God and their desire to experience Him in their lives to a greater degree. Do not take what St. Ignatius says out of context. 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This latter is considered a false obedience. He has issued a warning. We have brought this on ourselves, allowing 60 million unborn babies to be slaughtered in the womb. You may enjoy this one: http://rcspiritualdirection.com/blog/. So, you would also accept a metaphor of a God with multiple human arms and hands like some of the Hindu gods? Am also not responding to a number that shall go nameless! Sometimes you just might be surprised on what your heart will tell you and what may or may not be false. Would Jesus and His Blessed Mother and the saints choose Sweeney-Kyle to give the Catholic Church a tongue-lashing? They often are not obedient to our Holy Father and his Magisterium, They have many times misled the faithfulremember, it is the Catholic vote that re-elected Obamaand they are largely responsible for the moral confusion and defiance to Rome that plagues the United States. 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