Im like, its: You have two goats And now theres going to be all these rumors: See? So it was covering all of the commandments that had been broken, which was pretty much all of them. Fr. Now, a couple notes. [Laughter] But theres literally a text variant there. They meant it to him for evil, but he meant it for good. Ill take it. The Sons of God as a Polemic against Royal Immortality: A Philological and Literary Comparison of Genesis 6:14 and the Epic of Kirta, WHO 'FELL DOWN' TO OUR EARTH? Thats why this is the day when everything has to be purified. It has this sort of importance as a major battle site. Were talking about atonement, and weve just taken a really whirlwind trip through the New Testament, just, I dont know, astonishingly beautiful stuff, looking at how Christ is both goats in the Day of Atonement ritual. Fr. [Laughter] No, theyve got to both be great. And then, verse 17, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the Prophet, saying: He himself took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses. So Matthew is saying this is now fulfilled, the Suffering Servant passage of Isaiah, by Jesus healing ministry of sickness and demon-possession. The scholar on Slavonic pseudepigrapha so if you want to get into Slavonic pseudepigraphaand who doesnt?is Andrei Orlov, and hes written a ton, and a lot of its available for free on the internet, if you want to read scholarly journal articles. Fr. We talked a little bit about that. Sorry, everybody. Orthodox Christian priests Fr. Andrew: So the blood is drained, the body is burnt. Andrew: Yeah, it was created for English Bibles to translate a couple of words, one from Hebrew, one from Greek. 35 min; APR 17, 2023; Revelation 12:1-9 Revelation 12:1-9. Yeah, and I mean, people do that all the time, like they say theres three wise men. I am so thankful to have found this podcast, which is a wonderful resource on content and context! Fr. Stephen: Because that kind of response kind of begs the question, where its sort of like: Well, okay, what is St. Matthew talking about? I mean, people just. Stephen: In any way. Facebook But what hes on to is what St. Matthew was talking about. So this is sometimes expressed as there were arguments about them; in reality it was just some communities had them and used them and some other ones didnt have them and therefore didnt. Fr. Andrew: Thank you for calling, Father. Stephen: And so, yes, theres the figure, especially in the Apocalypse of Abraham, hes named Yahoel, this Angel of the Lord figure, who serves as the high priest for this eschatological Day of Atonement. I hear you. Theyre not out in the wilderness; theyre not encamping in tents. I can describe to you the inner workings of countless fictional universes. Fr. And I was going to say, I want to give a shout-out. So we have again in Leviticus 16 a fair amount of detail describing exactly whats going on. Fr. The Judaism at the time of Christ was entirely centered on the temple, but the temple was destroyed in AD 70. Andrew: Yeah, I mean, how do they fish him out? [Laughter]. Stephen De Young from Lafayette, Louisiana. Thank you very much for listening, everybody. Collective Identity and Collective Memory: Deuteronomy and the Deuteronomistic History in Their Context, eds. This has just not been my day. Stephen: And are listening to that Mexican radio station that used to come through on my microphone. And so then, logically enough, when you find this in its noun formthese same roots are used for both verbs and nouns and also for adjectiveswhen its a noun it means a cover or a covering. So in short, because our first two halves were already more than half of our time this evening, so were not going to go through the whole work, St. Athanasius talks about atonement as happening through the Incarnation, that by God becoming man, he, by virtue of his holiness as Godthat same holiness that they couldnt see and live on the Day of Atonement in the Old Testamentby becoming man he purifies humanity, not just in terms of, like We tend to think of this in quasi-spatial terms, almost like the human body seen as a physical thing. And I think this is really important to notice this because we say that Christ is the fulfillment of all things in the Old Testament, and here you have this Second Temple Jewish literature, a lot of it preceding, some of it being at the same time as the New Testament, essentially pointing to this: theres this big eschatological version of this thats going to be happening. Andrew: Thank you very much, and God bless you all. Fr. That is not a false etymology, although usually etymologies that go like that are; theyre just nonsense. Okay, sono, its good. Stephen: So where combinations have been made. They come into power in the same way that our sin brings us under the power, brings us into bondage under those hostile powers. It fell into disrepair. Stephen wrote his PhD dissertation on the atonement, so he is well-qualified to address the issue. The purpose of this paper is to examine the Biblical text tracing the seed of Satan, namely the Nephilim, and Rephaim. Thats okay. Hence, the emergence of Rabbinic Judaism. Fr. [Laughter], Fr. Dont mention that! Special request. What does it mean? There is literally no informationnow, this ritual, when you read Leviticus 16, theres a lot of detail here; weve already started with some of it, were going to have more detail as we go, but exactly whats to be done, there is no detail on how this goat is to be killed. Fr. This is like Joseph in Genesis. Its this annual thing, so it must be a really big deal. Fr. This isnt just kind of Christians coming up with allegorical ways to read the Old Testament, to read Jesus into it. Fr. ), Ancient Tales of Giants from Qurman and Turfan: Contexts, Traditions, and Influences (Tbingen: Mohr Siebeck, 2016), The Landscape of Memory: Giants and the Conquest of Canaan. Fr. So if you were to translate Azazel as the goat that goes away, then the other one becomes the goat that is who he is and makes things come into being. [Laughter] Like, it doesnt, Fr. Andrew: Thats what it is. Fr. Praise for God is a Man of War. And in a ritual, if something is not ritualized, when you have a detailed ritual, and it says, Before the ritual, wash your hands, for example, and it doesnt say, Heres the prayer when you wash your hands, that means the hand-washing isnt ritualized, and it means it doesnt mean anything. Critical Review of Fr. Stephen De Young's "Here There Be Giants" These. Andrew: Alas. Stephen: Well, he actuallyI think youre mixing him with Pompey, the Roman general, Fr. All right, thank you! I mean, that is just an overarching commandment of the whole Scripture: no idolatry, ever. Consequently, Christianity has more continuity with the religion practiced by the Pharisees than what we know of today as Judaism.. Did it eradicate it? Stephen: Right, and this is the only sacrificial ritual of any kind in the Torah in which sins are placed on an animal. He then has broken Azazels hold over the world, and so now the whole cosmos, the whole creation can become sacred space, can be purified and can be sacred space. Fr. We understand theres kind of like a pipeline from there to here. The Bible provides us with some similes pertaining to height. Andrew: Yeah, they dont lead to salvation. So, actually, there is really important theology and teaching and doctrine thats in these three letters. Dr. Stephen De Young, creator of the popular The Whole Counsel of God blog and podcast, traces the lineage of Orthodox Christianity back to the faith and witness of the apostles, which was rooted in a first-century Jewish worldview. Well do an ark of the covenant episode, just about that. Stephen: John 17, 18, and 19 also talks about this same idea, where Christthis is in the contextthis is part of the long reading on Holy Thursday eveningwhere Christ isthis is sometimes referred to as Christs high priestly prayer, appropriately enoughand Christ says in verses 18 and 19, As you sent me into the world, I have also sent them into the world, and for their sakes, I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth. And of course the truth in St. Johns gospel is Christ himself. Fr. Stephen De Young discusses verses 19 and 20 of Galatians, Chapter 3. And that is so so heart-rendingly beautiful. Is he just saying, Im going to come into this. Repeat after me. Photius in Texas. Stephen: Im Um, actually"ing you in real time. We just walked through the Day of Atonement ritual, the goat for Yahweh, the goat for Azazel, and what those things mean. And so the kefir roots, usually transliterated as K-F-R, is a group of words that primarily means to cover, the verb forms. The more I learned about scripture, the more I felt the need for additional guidance on both the holy messages and the contextsculture, history, languages, geography, etc. Mike Schmitz), Let's Read the Gospels with Annie F. Downs, Fr. Fr. The idea of aliens, giants and mysterious monolithic structures has become popularized. Rabbinic Judaism was invented specifically in reaction to Christianity, and involved systematically expunging aspects of their theological pedigree that overlapped with the Christian faith. But hes appropriately describing it to help you make that connection, because what are the gospels? I mean, there are basic problems with that; for example, thats how people are ordained in the New Testament, is by the laying-on of hands. Awesome. Fr. So I dont think they were putting their sins on presbyters. Disclaimers, Pauls Works of the Law in the Perspective of Second Century Reception, by Matthew J. Thomas A Review, John the Presbyter: Eusebius Imaginary Friend. How do you put sins on a goat? Yeah, so why? And I looked this up: what is the earliest use of this word? Fr. Fr. Dr. Stephen De Young is Pastor of Archangel Gabriel Orthodox Church in Lafayette, Louisiana. Andrew: And freedom being given by Christ from that. Im like, why dont we start with: What does the Bible say? He purifies even them. Andrew Damick, Michael Landsman, and Ancient Faith Radio, Fr. Andrew: I feel like that could be on a t-shirt. Now, this doesnt mean, like, he was Santa, keeping a list all year, like the high priest was going around spying on people and seeing all the stuff they did and writing it down. Is it because its being offered to God? So this is about that. Fr. Augh! Fr. Photius: Oh, man! Fr. Andrew: Yeah, his single most popular and famous work. Fr. And St. John picks up pieces of this verse; elements of this idea form part of the structure of the book of 1 John. And the ark he would dip his index finger in and then sort of whip it in order to sprinkle the blood onto the ark itself. So theres a whole bunch of things like that, where weve picked it up and we assume its there in the text, and it actually isnt when you go check. Stephen: So the name of this angel is Yahweh-God. These are possibly the basis of the Greek Gigantomachy, which was condemned by the Risen Christ as Satans Throne, both genetically and spiritually. Okay, so how does? Fr. [Laughter].