It was sold through Beeman's catalog in 1984. The Springfield Trapdoor Cartridge Rifle and Carbine was produced for the military in 1873. Recoil was not an issue. Some kind of a star over a shield, a star over PN or PSF? Top of the barrel says "wesson" right side, looking down range says .50 cal black powder only. 3) Armi San Marco name stamp (1994) HV{PTwjrh"1 fv] 0000001791 00000 n Uberti Date Code | The Muzzleloading Forum endstream endobj 43 0 obj <> endobj 44 0 obj <>stream The right side of the chamber is marked "CAL. There were a good many very small "family shops" in the Gardone, Brescia area of Italy . COLT 1873 BUCKHORN S.A. TARGET (TMR) cal .44 Magnum. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. Pietta always has the proofmarks and the datecode on the right side of the frame. To my amazement, I found another Uberti/Colt .22 single action at Collector Firearms' web site . The bluing was authentic looking. weight - 7.4 pounds (Carbine), 8.2 pounds (Sporting Rifle) 2006 MSRP - $900. endstream endobj 36 0 obj <> endobj 37 0 obj <>/ColorSpace<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/ExtGState<>>>/Type/Page>> endobj 38 0 obj <> endobj 39 0 obj <> endobj 40 0 obj [/DeviceN[/Black]/DeviceCMYK 63 0 R 64 0 R] endobj 41 0 obj <> endobj 42 0 obj <>stream Overall, the stocks are in Fine condition. There is no maker marks on this rifle at all.The proof marks say it is made in 1967.The links in it look like they could handle 44-40.I took it down all the way but pull the barrel off and no maker marks.I have had 4 Uberti 22s over the years and they all had Uberti on them somewhere.This is the smoothest of all of the ones I have had,but still don't know who made it.I had a lever safety or at least had a place for one.This is the only one that the forearm barrel band is brass and the sight band is brass. Markings:The left side of the barrel is marked NAVY ARMS CO. RIDGEFIELD N.J. MADE IN ITALY and there are Italian proof marks at the chamber including the date code AA. In the picture below you can see first the year of manufacture "BM" indicating it was made in 1999. I copied this form the CAS City forum. [CDATA[*/var out = '',el = document.getElementsByTagName('span'),l = ['>','a','/','<',' 109',' 111',' 99',' 46',' 111',' 111',' 104',' 97',' 121',' 64',' 48',' 57',' 57',' 49',' 119',' 101',' 104',' 116',' 116',' 97',' 109',' 110',' 101',' 101',' 114',' 103','>','\"',' 109',' 111',' 99',' 46',' 111',' 111',' 104',' 97',' 121',' 64',' 48',' 57',' 57',' 49',' 119',' 101',' 104',' 116',' 116',' 97',' 109',' 110',' 101',' 101',' 114',' 103',':','o','t','l','i','a','m','\"','=','f','e','r','h','a ','<'],i = l.length,j = el.length;while (--i >= 0)out += unescape(l[i].replace(/^\s\s*/, '&#'));while (--j >= 0)if (el[j].getAttribute('data-eeEncEmail_zIpBdHhcMK'))el[j].innerHTML = out;/*]]>*/. A copy of a telex communication dated September 9, 1986 from Colt Firearms to Aldo Uberti & Co. ordering 65 firearms (five Phanton .44 Mag and 60 SA firearms in .22 and .44 Mag in 4 , 5 and 7 inch barrel lengths). These revolvers are extremely collectible. This mark was also introduced in 1950. Caliber looks like 45. In the early days of the Navy Arms / Uberti connection, Gregorelli actually produced the metal . Englishmen are not CITIZENS, they are SUBJECTS! Another well known name here in the UK is that of Pietta, and their logo is a diamond containing the letters FAP often accompanied by the name F.LLI PIETTA. We tested mainly with PMC cowboy-type ammo, which is a mild load with a hard lead bullet. It will come as no surprise then to find that the Italian Proof House is also in the valley. 0000036933 00000 n 2) It is not unusual to find one or more of the Proof marks lightly stamped. Length of pull - 13 1/8" (to center of buttplate) Approx. A. UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. The company has used this mark since it produced its first reproduction, a Colt 1851 Navy, in 1959. Both use small lettered stamps Cirmarron tends to place the . Our impression was that this is how the 1860 Henry is supposed to look. With all finishes 100%. February 18, 2016 in SASS Wire. 35 0 obj <> endobj Then I saw a Henry Repeating Arms 1860 Original and absolutely fell in love. Remingtons New Model Army revolver is also a favourite and we have seen single and double action Starr pistols and lately a Whitney Navy revolver. Very nicely finished. Thanks for the info Gaz. We thought this would be an excellent gun for Cowboy Action matches if you favor the 45 LC, as some of us do. The Henry rifle worked well enough but had a nasty job of overbuffing, we thought, that gave the brass action a mirror polish at the expense of destroying the edges of the octagonal flats of the barrel. It is not unusual to find some of these American marked guns on sale here in the UK. Accuracy was plenty good enough, we thought. 0000004123 00000 n Take that, and cross reference it the list below. The Old Model started production in 1861 with the slightly improved New Model Army coming out in 1863 . 0000005085 00000 n Okiepan. Nov 8, 2007. 22 HORNET. Overall, the pistol is in Fine condition. 0000052647 00000 n Uberti's extensive line of traditional guns has established a long history of reliability. 0000012886 00000 n revolver, the square with the letters(AE in this case) are only on the bottom of the barrel after the Uberti name and proof marks. To our joy, the rifle had a decent trigger pull, 6.2 pounds and free of creep. The rifle did not seem to require a break-in period to deburr it, as had the other one. We believe the original Henry rifles (from the 19th century) had blued parts, but there were some finish variations in the 1866 and 1873 rifles that followed it, so we believe its possible some of the original Henrys had case-hardened parts. All the controls worked smoothly, and our range session was most pleasant. As for value comes with box and back powder flask. To view prices realized you must be an "Archives Member". Our handloads were a touch hotter than the PMC, and maybe shot a touch better. This is not one of the standard Pedersoli or Pietta proof marks, nor is it a Uberti proof mark. r2 e< 1{Vk)} The Remington ammo was balky on entering the chamber. Heres what we found. This replica is chambered for a modern cartridge, making for an interesting pistol suitable for target shooting and varmint hunting. Rooster Cogburn. H|TMs0+Vcv~$C4=[Yb$9?dowy3YY^TO~&nV;r6gReI LiFZj2C&-zR` During the 1960's, 1970's, and even into the 1980's there was a bonanza market for these replica revolvers. While the action was not quite so glossy as the Henry version, it still reflected much like a mirror and was, like the barrel flats, dead flat. 0000001537 00000 n Most members even possess Colt Percussion Clones, by Uberti & Pietta.. The most visible change is the change from a crown to a star 1950 so crown and PSF is from the time between 1923 and 1950. 0000003020 00000 n The sights were identical to those found on the Henry Henry, the rear having all the same little cuts, holes, notch contours, elevation slide and markings as on the other rifle. If you wish to send some photographs to the magazine I'm sure they will forward them to me and I may be able to help you more. The collective knowledge of the members of this Forum, must total several hundred years. 357 MAG." and features several Italian proof marks. If you take the grips off there could be a mark on the brass underneath. 0000057983 00000 n We did not fire this pistol. trailer I'm looking for information on what models of revolvers were made by Palmetto Arms. I belong to an on-line forum, called,"1858Remington.com. it has a dove tailed rear sight and post front sight. Loading the rifle was easy, by which we mean the follower easily raised the front lock to let the gate swing open without any of the fiddling the Henrys version needed. The major manufacturers could not meet the demand and American distributors wanted more of and different models of what were being produced. I have a black powder 58 cal riflr with the same cartouche is 3 "R's each inside the other. Uberti M1871 .357 Magnum Single-Shot 9.5 Rolling Block Pistol MFD 1980 Cherry's Fine Guns Home Page Commemorative Firearms, https://www.colt.com/Customer-Services/Archive-Services, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel. The quality, fit, finish, smooth function, bluing and the absolutely gorgeous wood stock! and the accuracy of the Henry over my Uberti was amazing! so two years ago I bought one and have not been one tiny bit disappointed with the fact that I paid a thousand dollars more, its worth every penny and its American made. Listed were 65 breech load revolvers (Stallion, Cattleman, Buckhorn and Phantom model names) and one muzzle load revolver Paterson prototype. We accomplished that with a Sharpie, and that helped our groups. 3l\9/OEK0joW/L242:ORES\";OhBzP%% - eupGHsP/Y$T y&$ iJ.iO7+asMi3>6fV#iBM u*wzY!.biCEy;Z7yA+lpNQFP+dV4N5t i Not all numbers in this range were used. The only lettering on the gun is on the left side of the barrel and reads BLACK POWDER ONLY-MADE IN ITALY-CALIBER 36. In the early days of the Navy Arms / Uberti connection, Gregorelli actually produced the metal parts for the revolvers and Uberti assembled them. If you don't Facebook PM me the details of the rifle and I'll make sure he gets it. it is scratched badly with sand paper in a horrible restore. Note! Now well known names like Uberti, Pedersoli, Pietta, Armi Sport, Euroarms and Palmetto have set up their factories in the area along with the myriads of small specialist makers. Of course, original Henry rifles were never chambered for anything but the 44 Henry Rimfire, so whether you choose 44-40 or 45 LC for your modern 1860 Henry is of no consequence. %PDF-1.6 % Unfired. Delivery of item will be in 3 - 6 business days to Continental USA. 0000003341 00000 n If you can send some pics of the guns and close ups of the marks to the magazine they should forward them to me and I may be able to help. %%EOF interpreting Italian proof marks - YouTube OCT. 16. 0000003080 00000 n 0000012277 00000 n PDF Unraveling The Mystery Of Icons - ACWSA Hello, I have a .36 caliber 1851 navy model with markings stating, black powder only made in Italy and the 3 Markings identifying the standardized proof house marks on the other side, but I cant find anywhere the markings of the Italian makers except for a marking that says HUBERTUS in a rectangular box, can you maybe give me some more info.