Send it my way Tom. But given the choice of those two rifles, Id be facing a really tough decision. Viewed together, the .308 looks like the 6.5s littler brother. Ill just turn up the wick a bit and Ill have this Ruger singing a sub moa song every time it thumps dinner. You dont want a short, handy barrel when youre trying to connect at 1000 yards. Brand: Ruger. Looks my earlier response got lost in the digital ether. I chalk this performance gap up to two distinct weaknesses. SMKs. of it. Notify Me When Available. The Swedish Mausers have unfortunately gone up in price, and they are not accurized, but some do surprisingly very well in military stocks. Thats a benefit, e.g.:http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/story/1616372-sniper-s-hide-complete-ruger-upgrade-review. (Believe me, I know I am spoiled). Ive had my RPR in 308 for about a year now. The recoil should then be tolerable if you are recoil sensitive. I picked up an RPR .308 from Fin Feather Fur, in Ohio, for $999.99, theyre offering the 6.5 for the same money. Backing way up to the start of this whole process, we have the issue of how the barrels were treated on break-in. This makes it easy for anyone one to quickly get into the long range precision game. Im guessing you bought both of them, no? Is there anything inherent with .308 that makes it more difficult to lay down tight groups? The barrel wear should not be as much of concern within 500 yard ranges as you only need 1.5 MOA, or so, to be accurate enough. The only down-side is those 4 round Savage magazines. Call Rugers customer support with the serial number of your RPR and theyll send to you. What did matter was hacking off a four-inch section of 4140 and cutting the aluminum handguard back a few inches. It all makes for an interesting horse race. Take it from a Canadian. The evaluation gun provided by Ads are what helps us bring you premium content. They sent it back with a 50 yard test target (useless) and called it good. It would be a very efficient rifle on the field. As in almost all things gun-related, barrel length is a topic of fierce debate, but I count myself in the camp that believes you should go with the shortest rifle barrel that will do the job at hand. Been shooting for more than 40 years and never heard of such a thing. So plan on spending a minimum of $1,400 and probably closer to $1,800 when the dust settles to get your hunting gun on the level of functionality that the RPR brings to the table straight out of the box. Its scoped & ready to go but having a 4 month old has kept me at bay for now. For the new shooter getting into shooting long-range precision, Id absolutely recommend the 6.5 Creedmoor version of this rifle. I dont know why this one isnt a lights-out shooter like the 6.5. Cant even hit a 4 x 6 target at 1000 yds. A One-Time Donation (You choose the amount): A $5 Dollar bill, a 5 Euro bill, a few Pre-1965 silver dimes, or a booklet of Forever U.S. postage stamps sent in the mail also works! I was holding about a 12 group at 800 yds. I would buy another 6.5 just to have. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Even though I did my best, I have to remember that my trigger finger is all deformed, and doesnt have much feeling in it both due to osteoarthritis. 308 Rifle All mags worked fine. - The good news is that the Ruger Precision Rifle only retails for $1,500. R700 as is just to get some rounds down range for my hasty and unplanned range trip. The 6.5 shot the 120 gr. When I first got to basic, that rifle did to me what it did to everybody else, at first, and that would be giving every one first shooting it a massive goose-egg on their cheek, we all lived to shoot another day. More to follow. Im not a competitive shooter so I dont worry about shooting of barricades and that sort of thing. Good shooting 6.555 Swedish Mausers can still be found at a reasonable price, and I would prefer the well proven in battle Mauser actions to the more refined and accurate modern sporting actions and barrels. Id love to point to some error in my methodology, but I shot both guns on back to back days, off the same rest system, with the same optic, at the same target, at the same time of day. If you love to wear polyester fabric jackets? Actually there are many reasons. Great observations (rant) on recoil management and other topics. However, it was at least vindicating to see that both guns had cheek rests with some flex. (5) Ruger AR-556 16.1" Black w/Adjustable B5 Bravo Stock 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle. I can tune a 175 grain bullet to do just about anything in that gun. I believe their opinions are formed largely by following the current trend versus first-hand experience. I am an average shooter and I have never shot worse than .75 with the 6.5 RPR. I am not personally familiar with the 308s as far as what they are capable of, but Ive never heard of anyone unable to get them to shoot easily under 1 MOA average with around .5 bests. I cant wait to get my hands on this rifle. Barrel length is only 20-inches, but you dont need any longer barrel than that. I would love to have that rifle. Its just a matter of wearing down the bumps and filling in the pits with copper. When the bullet hits the rifling grooves it rings the barrel like a tuning fork. The Daily Web Log for Prepared Individuals Living in Uncertain Times. Trigger: Ruger Marksman Adjustable trigger, pull weight of 2.25 to 5 pounds; bolt disassembly tool is stored in the bolt shroud. Only for men. I believe the Ruger Precision Rifle is capable of even better accuracy than I achieved. Capacity10 Height7.30" Overall Length39.25" - 42.75" Length of Pull12" - 15.50" Folded Length31.60" Its kind of Rugers thing. If I can persuade someone to make an extended rail (please, Ruger?) Ill have to run a comparison test myself, with Federal Gold 168, NATO 147 gr 7.62 & some Atomic match. And good luck to you with yours. That applies to the .308, too, but there are a couple of minor differences related to barrel and handguard length and weight that justify a second review. And this is the rub as it relates to this RPR. Curious how that works out. Guess Im just older than most and have an appreciation for the past. I gave the 6.5 a four-star rating that was much more like a 4.8. The one thing I didnt care for was the use of so much polymer/plastic on them. Im old school like yourself. Have topped it with a Vortex Viper PST 4-1650 on a LaRue mount. The Black Hills Gold their hunting ammo, gave me groups slightly below one inch, if I did my part, and thats mighty fine for a hunting load. This will get feed same as my ARs with a bit of individual fine tuning; Hornady 155gr A-Max bulk for fun & break-in, Sierra 175gr TMKs for target work, and Nosler 180gr AccuBonds for wapiti. Ill take good care. For most game and most hunters the performance of either round is just fine. I suggest you buy a Bob-sled from Brownells & fire singles, or stop using olives in your RPR. target shooting, but with the 20 barrel I dont think Ill ever get there. So either way buying the .308 would probably save a few hundred dollars. Im a bit surprised at the lack of accuracy. My current .308 bolt gun is a 13 pound target rifle. He loves that gun and it shoots regular 1 MOA groups he says. In the review above, you claim to have put a brake on this rifle but you didnt specify whether the groups were shot with or without the brake, or whether you tested for any effect of the brake on group size. Still, when you are demanding your best efforts on each and every shot, it takes a toll on you, so that is one reason the shooting was conducted over the course of several days. The edges of the lands were sharp enough on the .308 that it would pick up bits of the dry patches I pushed down the bore, a behavior that the 6.5 did not exhibit. Now that Ruger has this rifle I see it as an ideal platform for a Scout. In 6.5 Creedmoor, follow up shots will be even quicker as the recoil is very mild, You should be able to see the hit and adjust and be ready to fire again. First of all, this is a bolt-action rifle that is is not designed to be a hunting rifle. Ruger Precision Rifle Barrett Brown .308 Win 20" Barrel MLOK You dont need a $2,500 scope to accomplish this task. With in 5 shots I was zeroed ( out of the box ). And the Germans used Mauser 98s. I thoroughly enjoyed your review and agree. It is 9 pound rig with about 11 pounds of recoil, and even when it heats up, there is little change in the accuracy, that is right at MOA. Item Number: 6803. Averages around 2-2.5 with the same loads that do .5-.7 in my Savage 10BA. The other weakness, and the one that no gun can really overcome is that the 6.5 just bucks the wind better. I have not yet loaded custom rounds for the Ruger Precision Rifle to see if it can be tightened up; However, the .308 win has been around a while and there is no doubt that a rifle marketed to be precision should shoot 1.5 MOA or better. Ruger SFAR: A .308 Win. in a .223 Package: Full Review It shoots the same ammo 100-150 fps slower than a Savage model 10 I have with the same length barrel. Ive got just under 3,000 rounds through it and am paying close attention to groups for any signs of throat erosion. Ruger Precision Rifle: Worth It? - The Shooter's Log That is impressive. Keep in mind that I have attended a precision rifle match once in my life. angle accuracy, Im just curious why the .308 is twice as worse in accuracy. Fired 15 or 20 at 1000 yds. First we had people whinging about the recoil on .223s/5.56s and seeking out muzzle brakes to tame this recoil. The very notion still makes my brain ponder WTF are they talking about? Now we have more whinging about recoil on a rifle where most of us old guys usually ask what recoil? when said rifle weighs more than 7 lbs. I have two proven sniper rifles, one a savage axis 270, scoped with a redfield 412. So, back to what constitutes a sniper or counter-sniper rifle. My RPR in 338 Lapua broke after 38 shots of factory ammo. Ruger used a 15-inch handguard on the 6.5 and a 12.37 inch on the .308, so the difference is only 2.63 inches. The 6.5 got a well-deserved five stars. The barrel length on a competition .22, which has to be shot standing off-hand (as well as sitting, kneeling and prone) is over 24 inches. But that just is not gonna happen, in my old age. Gun Review: Springfield Armory Ronin EMP 3 9mm 1911, Gun Review: Henry U.S. Ballistics by the inch is also a nice resource. A gun that handles well in a caliber that translates to dead right there terminal ballistics is a friend of mine. A shorter sight radius magnifies small sighting errors. and Im OK, 900 yds. After barrel breakin, it is a consistent half inch gun out to 800 yards. At 100 yards, no. I just picked one up used in 308 for $1000 as an impulse buy even though I was impatiently waiting for one in 6.5. Promise! Weight and length dont matter so much when youre going to tote it to the firing line in a cart. Not a bad analogy. They make them for the RPR. Gun Review: Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 WIN. The fact that they also will feed from the same magazine is a major bonus. But how can you beat it at that price point a question I have been asked by a number of fellow shooters in my area and how can you improve on it. But if youre looking for a gun that maneuvers well in a truck or perches easily on barriers, there are better options than a long range competition rifle. But if youre already invested in .308, dont be scared off by these results. In the 29 barrel of the M96, the bullet might be 50 fps faster. The set-up looks more than a little different than your typical bolt-action hunting rifle, thats for sure. Capacity10 Height7.30" Overall Length39.25"-42.75" Length of Pull12" - 15.50" Folded OMG, agree completely, and couldnt frankly believe such a thing was possible. WebBuy Ruger Precision Rifle .308 Win. Dont know for sure, but the Amax make large holes for exit wounds. In WW II they were 03 Sprinfields and Garands. Rugers have never been known for their accuracy, especially their old bolt guns with that cockamamey combination action screw/recoil lug. But, just like the 6.5, this can easily be addressed thanks to the compatibility with AR-15 parts. For example the newer 6.5mm 150 grain Serria BTHP can be run out a .260 Remingtion at 2,697 fps. Had to go buy a large expensive gun case to return to ruger couldnt fold stock to get it back in factory box. Brand: Savage. I clean extensively within the first 50 rounds or so, and subject the barrel to only slow-fire. I know most people around here are not fans of dead tree rags but I dont think they lied about the results. Review: Ruger American Predator .308 Long barrels are fine if they come with a corresponding increase in girth. Suggested Retail$1929.00. I wanted to make sure I was giving it my best effort. Hopefully Ill now be able to compete with the rest of the long range shooters at our club. It has the added advantage that it is a common caliber round. I am indeed a gun nut, that was disguised as a radio nut, who, to poor to buy another gun, bot radios instead. The Ruger preferred the 168-gr Match Hollow Point load over the 175-gr Match Hollow Point load not by much, but it was enough to make a difference in the small groups. To save you the humiliation of asking a girl how much rifle shes hefting while she out-shoots you, Ill give you the answer: Same as my Annie over 10 pounds. Davidson's Exclusive Ruger American Hunter Review Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I didnt perform a barrel break in of any type, I never cleaned it, and I got it glove-melting hot. I get the same accuracy with either of my Armalite AR10s. No adjustments were made to optics. Youll need it with that short barrel. Aimed at the My hand loads shoot 5-shot 0.5 MOA groups all day long. WebI hope you enjoyed this article on the best scope for Ruger precision rifles. I ran the gun hard and didnt give it optimal conditions in which to perform because I wanted to see a worst case scenario. and Smithing. It's essentially a .308 Winchester, If they have 4 wheel drive many will never use it. Every big gun magazine is copying his experiments!